| Author | Message | ||
     Daniel Snow Member Username: Snowd Post Number: 48 Registered: 07-2011 |
Broadly, the British Driving Society divides equines into two classes - over 13.2 and under 13.2. They don’t get trapped into defining what a “pony” is because it’s a minefield. Would you say a 15.2hh Welsh Section D is a horse or a pony? | ||
| Tracy Squire Member Username: Tracy Post Number: 2 Registered: 07-2013 |
Daniel can you please tell me why a 14.2hh/147.5cm is no longer a pony according to these rules they allow 149cms with shoes and as that still a pony they way I understand it. The JMB always measures without shoes. | ||
| Daniel Snow Member Username: Snowd Post Number: 47 Registered: 07-2011 |
We have two 13.3hh ponies (total 800kg?) that could pull a Sherman tank. Our 12.1hh ponies (500kg+) would be all in after a full marathon with 225 kg + 2 persons and we can only do club competitions with our 10.5hh Shetland crosses (<400kg total) where we use our singles fenix flier (130kg) with a pole. The weight restrictions and trot speeds are designed for big ponies. Note that a full up 14.2hh would not be classed as a pony under BDS rules. Why did they feel the need to lower the bar? You have to draw the line somewhere but it seems a bit odd that the BHDTA pony rules are stacked so heavily against 90% of the genuine British pony breeds.. | ||
| Fiona Powell Member Username: Fionap Post Number: 271 Registered: 03-2007 |
Hi, Sam, my tuppence-worth is that a carriage that works well for singles is not going to be a good pairs carriage - and vice versa. My ponies are 13 hands and I did have a pole fitting put on my much-loved older (single) Fenix Flyer (weight about 145 kgs) and it's far too light (in my opinion) for anything but flatwork, also for pleasure driving, maybe... I have a great pairs carriage, about 235kgs (minimum for outdoor hdt is 225kgs) and it handles completely differently, is stable, built like a tank - not a Fenix. If I were in your shoes I'd be tempted to hang onto the Fenix Flyer - or sell it and buy a newer one, single, and get a second hand pairs carriage that's built for the purpose. I think lots of people buy pairs/single carriages thinking they are saving money but a decent pairs carriage is far too heavy, in my opinion, for a single pony as small as yours - so you might find a good one going quite cheap! Just my thoughts - and I'm sure many others will have different opinions and experiences. Fiona | ||
| Vicky Brennan Member Username: Vicky_brennan Post Number: 48 Registered: 07-2012 |
I have an oldish Flyer and I love it  | ||
| Linda King Member Username: Linda_king Post Number: 39 Registered: 05-2012 |
Hi sam We have three Fenix carriages which range in size My Son and daughter both use the new Fenix small pony flyer which is a fantastic little carriage. We use it for an 11.3hh upto a 13.1hh and they all pull it with ease both indoor and out and it is always very stable and a new one could easily be made with the option of using it as a pairs carriage if you so wished at a later date and as you already have a Fenix you may also be able to trade this in against your new carriage. | ||
| Sam H Member Username: Jazzyb Post Number: 33 Registered: 01-2012 |
Hi All I am thinking of treating myself to a new carriage soon and was wondering what peoples opinions were on the different makes and models of carriages. I am currently using the older style fenix flyer. I have 2 ponies 1 at 12h and the other 12.1h which would be using the cart and in the future would possibly like to try pairs so would need a carriage that would be suitable for Pairs and singles. I use the carriage for indoor trials, pleasure driving and possibly outdoor trials. Any suggestions / opinions? Thanks Sam |