| Author | Message | ||
     Ruby Ashby Member Username: Patchwork Post Number: 8 Registered: 06-2012 |
Thanks Sue. Do you drive your small 12.3 ponies as a pair or one at a time as a single? How strong are they just driving round the lanes and what breed or type are they? It is interesting that you say you love the pony attitude is that because they try hard or because they have character? | ||
| Kate Adams Member Username: Kateadams Post Number: 2 Registered: 04-2009 |
Hi sue.. Would it be possible to have the contact details for the 610 trailer please. My email is juliakateadams@aol.com. | ||
| Sue Courtney Member Username: Calykins Post Number: 24 Registered: 07-2008 |
The cheaper £4k 610 is in the New Forest. I have been told by the IW dealer that I've oredered mine from that the problems with towing are caused by putting the ponies on the back and the vehicle in the front so the trailer becomes back heavy as all the weight is behind the back axle especially if its two cobs on the back. I know many people use them and are very happy with them and generally only change them if giving up or moving to a lorry as they want accomodation. On your question on a 12.2 capability I am a large lady with a 6'4" partner who backsteps and I have two different 12.3 ponies that will pull us happily out pleasure driving, however I wouldnt ask them to compete as I feel its asking a lot of them , it all depends on the pony as to whether you will feel underhorsed, I had a 14hh previously and it is just a different drive and personally love the pony attitude. Sue | ||
| Kate Adams Member Username: Kateadams Post Number: 1 Registered: 04-2009 |
Hi Sheila. Please could you email me photos of your trailer as I may also be interested. Thanks. Juliakateadams@aol.com | ||
| Ruby Ashby Member Username: Patchwork Post Number: 7 Registered: 06-2012 |
Hi Sheila - yes please email me photos to rubyashby@btinternet.com Where are you in the country? | ||
| Sheila McNeill Member Username: Sheilamcn Post Number: 4 Registered: 02-2012 |
Hi Ruby - along the lines of a livestock trailer, I have a hybrid Ifor Williams trailer for sale which was adapted for taking ponies and cart. It has a rear and side ramp, 2 ponies going in the mid section with 4-wheel cart in the back. It has an electric winch fitted also. Triple axle and very stable. Price approx £1750. Happy to email photos if you're interested? | ||
| Patti Atkinson Member Username: Pattia Post Number: 35 Registered: 03-2007 |
And we have the perfect towing vehicle for an extended trailer for sale also on this site! | ||
| sue martin Member Username: Peter Post Number: 7 Registered: 09-2011 |
We have a Cheval Hippo trailer for sale on this site. These are built specifically for carrying a carriage on a purpose built platform and tow beautifully. This is,as far a we are concerned, the easiest way to transport horses and a carriage. We are only selling it as we need overnight accomodation so have bought a horsebox. | ||
| Ruby Ashby Member Username: Patchwork Post Number: 6 Registered: 06-2012 |
Vic What size was your friend's pony that went into the livestock trailer? | ||
| Ruby Ashby Member Username: Patchwork Post Number: 5 Registered: 06-2012 |
Thanks again for all the advice. Do you know Sue where the 610 is for sale? Someone did tell me that they don't tow very well at more than 30mph but I don't know how true that is. I lost my beautiful fell pony that I had broken to drive and tried to replace him just this week but the one I wanted was sold over my head before I could get to see it, so I am currently without a driving pony. However I am wondering whether to get a 12.2 heavy traditional cob I have seen for sale as I think Vic is right, a smaller pony and carriage will go into a 510 at least. I don't know whether a 12.2 would pull two adults OK especially if one of them was a rather overweight lady! Also I'm not used to driving such a small pony having driven fells and welsh cobs before. Maybe it would feel too small without enough power. Any comments welcome. | ||
| Sue Courtney Member Username: Calykins Post Number: 23 Registered: 07-2008 |
I do know of a IW 610 for sale at the moment at £4000 but dont know anything about it other than the people who have it look after their stuff. I will suggest she puts it on here to sell. There is also one for sale here which looks in good condition. http://www.horsetrailersales.co.uk/UsedTrailersForSale.asp at £6250 They are difficult to find but I'm told very good. | ||
| Vic Kusin Moderator Username: Vic Post Number: 37 Registered: 03-2007 |
What size is your pony ? Friends of ours have been using one of the Ifor Williams livestock trailers to take both pony and carriage and are very happy with the arrangement. May be worth looking out for. | ||
| Ruby Ashby Member Username: Patchwork Post Number: 4 Registered: 06-2012 |
Thank you Vic that is great information. Ideally I would love to find a long trailer to take the pony and carriage together but these seem hard to find in good condition at a sensible price. | ||
| Vic Kusin Moderator Username: Vic Post Number: 36 Registered: 03-2007 |
Hi Ruby, There was some discussion about this very subject a few years back. You will find it in the archived postings. If you go to the main Forum page and click on Archive then Older messages and then Archived general and then scroll down a little bit to 30-10-2008 there is an item heading Trailer extensions. This is a direct link to the discussion Trailer extensions One thing it mentions is the weight loading on the tow-ball of your towing vehicle. This must not be exceeded. There will be a maximum rating for this and there should be a stamp or a plate with the maximum weight on the tow bar. It will also be in your vehicle's manual. Normally this will be between 80 and 130 kg for a typical 4x4 towing vehicle (150kg for a Landrover Discovery). If you exceed this limit, you will risk damage or even breakage of the towing coupling and if you happen to be stopped by the police or at a roadside vehicle check, you will not be allowed to continue your journey. Your insurance will probably be affected as well. You can check the nose-weight with a gauge that you can get in a caravan shop. Milenco make one that is properly calibrated. Or you can improvise by using bathroom scales. If the carriage is mounted on the back of the trailer, the nose-weight may be too low, which will result in the trailer swinging from side to side while towing. Not very comfortable for your horses. The legal minimum is 25kg. You are aiming for about 75kg (roughly 7% of the trailer's loaded weight). There is a very useful leaflet published by the Caravan Club which describes in detail the importance of getting the nose-weight right an how to measure it. You can read it here Obviously, you'll not know what the nose-weight of your trailer is until you have it fully loaded with horses and carriage, which makes deciding what to buy a bit tricky ! | ||
| Ruby Ashby Member Username: Patchwork Post Number: 3 Registered: 06-2012 |
Thanks for that Maria - I'm too much of a coward though to buy unseen. I prefer to go and look and pay a bit more as used trailers can harbour hidden dangers for your horse like a rotten floor. | ||
| maria keady Member Username: Mazzak Post Number: 2 Registered: 11-2011 |
one on e bay at the moment. less than 24 hours left! it's a Sinclair Item number: 120925592909 might be of interest | ||
| Ruby Ashby Member Username: Patchwork Post Number: 2 Registered: 06-2012 |
Does anyone have any views or advice on using a carriage extension on an Ifor Williams trailer to transport a two wheel and a four wheel carriage to events? I just can't seem to get hold of a second hand long trailer. |