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Fiona Powell
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Username: Fionap

Post Number: 154
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Saturday, 16 June, 2012 - 10:37 pm:   

(Now where can I get purple paint with lime green stripes?) Thanks for all the good ideas!
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Jeff Bannister
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Post Number: 11
Registered: 02-2011
Posted on Friday, 15 June, 2012 - 7:49 pm:   

Has anyone considered Smartwater, a unique identifiable but invisible liquid which you paint on your property. It shows up only in UV light which many police stations now have as standard particularly when you enter custody suites. It is identifiable to a particular owner provided the owner has registered the use of each container of smartwater. From memory, it also comes in a fire sprinkler type format which can be set to spray trespassers as they enter a premises. The clothing is permanently marked and so shows in UV light leading to some awkward policing questions. I believe signs are part of the package and would, when placed visbly, suggest to a thief that recovery of stolen property and the ability to place them at a scene may outweigh the reward of the theft. Local police crime reduction officers know more.Just another option to research.
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Malcolm Parnell
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Username: Mrparnell

Post Number: 12
Registered: 09-2009
Posted on Friday, 15 June, 2012 - 5:04 pm:   

Microchips & distinctive colour scheme only work when looked for but if the thief cuts it up for scrap & sells the other parts on Ebay you are stuffed. Sorry to put a downer on to this but these people don't want your carriage as a carriage. If you heat a microchip it won't work & the easiest way to take paint of is with heat. The only way to stop these people is to make it as hard as possible for them.
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Caroline Gill
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Username: Carolineg

Post Number: 37
Registered: 05-2009
Posted on Friday, 15 June, 2012 - 12:13 pm:   

Yellow with pink spots it is then Fiona! :-)I wonder what the presentation judges would say!! :-)
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Fiona Powell
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Username: Fionap

Post Number: 150
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Friday, 15 June, 2012 - 8:53 am:   

All very good ideas - thank you. I have a microchip for bicycles which I keep meaning to try!

I have a theory that a distinctive colour scheme could be a slight deterrent...
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Malcolm Parnell
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Username: Mrparnell

Post Number: 8
Registered: 09-2009
Posted on Thursday, 14 June, 2012 - 7:34 am:   

Cameras & lights will deter any thief! With chains & locks & even a dog in the storage area. You can also get fold down bollards to make it as hard as possible to get to & get out. If it takes you half an hour to get your carriage out with the keys it will take a thief about half that with bolt cutters. The more you spend to keep it safe the safer it becomes.
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Helen Bridges
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Username: Dobbin

Post Number: 30
Registered: 08-2009
Posted on Wednesday, 13 June, 2012 - 10:18 pm:   

my carriage was stolen from our yard a couple of years ago,in daytime out of the back of my trailer.since then we park our landrover across our main gate,which is padlocked,two more locked gates,the carriages are in a locked garage chained together,two alsations,lights ,insurance,fingers tightly crossed.its takes half an hour to get the damn carriage out !! marking is ok, IF you can locate it in the first place,trackers and datatags do work but are expensive.sadly it appears we have to live with it.
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Rita Bundock
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Username: Roanmare

Post Number: 17
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Wednesday, 13 June, 2012 - 9:49 pm:   

A good thick chain (grinder proof) and a padlock that the shaft can't be got at once the chain is in place, this needs concreting into the floor, nice and deep with a T bar at the buried end. All this behind locked doors of a brick/concrete building in a secure and locked yard. (This may not help at all as 3 vehicles were stolen in our area by taking out a wall!)Do not attach lock and chain to a wheel but to the chassis via as many parts as the chain will take in. A good dog or geese in the yard or building. Get your post code or some form of ID engraved on the chassis, plus a microchip and put a sticker on the vehicle stating it has been marked and can be traced. Make it as difficult as possible even if it is a real pain for you to get the vehicle out.
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Deano Smith
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Username: Deanosmith

Post Number: 21
Registered: 05-2009
Posted on Wednesday, 13 June, 2012 - 8:05 pm:   

a custerma of mine as ad 3 carriages stolen a block of stables shafts poles and alot more there neads 2 b something done about this its getting to be a bite much to take
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Rupert Barnard
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Username: Rupertb

Post Number: 12
Registered: 08-2008
Posted on Wednesday, 13 June, 2012 - 7:52 pm:   

the seat is an easiliy removed part.... ideally it would want to be inside the frame somewhere... like inside the box section, or on the inside of the turn table.... how many people check what the state of the play is under all the grease?.....if you have extending axles, maybe inside the hollow stub axles, but the same applies, could be swapped for new if they knew there was a chip there.....ideally wants to be within the frame though, as they cant get to it to remove it without obviously showing that they've done it.

whats the cost of a microchip? does it equal a big heavy piece of toughened chain an a decent padlock.....loops embedded into concrete apparently work well, pass the chain over each axle maybe?

as Fiona says though, they will get it away if they want it....so maybe finding a way of keeping it inaccessible the first thing to look at?
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E O'Neill
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Username: Bengalkittensuk

Post Number: 4
Registered: 05-2011
Posted on Wednesday, 13 June, 2012 - 6:48 pm:   

I think you could maybe microchip it some where? seat maybe?
I'm just about to train as a micro chipper so thought I'd do my carriage
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Fiona Powell
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Username: Fionap

Post Number: 149
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Wednesday, 13 June, 2012 - 4:42 pm:   

Does anyone have any good advice?

I know that theives will take a carriage if they really want it - but what should we be doing to deter them and how should we be marking our carriages to make them easier to identify if they are found?

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